Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup version 0.21.1-1-g345015f (webtiles) character file. 201944 iggy the Omniscient (level 19, -4/147 HPs) Began as a Gnoll Earth Elementalist on Apr 18, 2018. Was the Champion of Ashenzari. Killed from afar by a deep elf sorcerer (29 damage) ... with damnation ... on level 3 of the Elven Halls on Apr 26, 2018. The game lasted 06:27:45 (53346 turns). iggy the Omniscient (Gnoll Earth Elementalist) Turns: 53346, Time: 06:27:45 Health: -4/147 AC: 23 Str: 12 XL: 19 Next: 1% Magic: 16/36 EV: 22 Int: 24 God: Ashenzari [******] Gold: 416 SH: 8 Dex: 16 Spells: 15/44 levels left rFire . . . SeeInvis + Z - +9 long sword of Springtime {freeze, +Blink rElec rF-} (curse) rCold . . . Gourm . I - +1 buckler {AC+3} rNeg + . . Faith . E - +1 robe {rF+} rPois + Spirit . q - +2 helmet {SInv} rElec + Reflect . m - +0 cloak rCorr . Harm . w - +2 pair of gloves (curse) MR ++++. Clarity + S - +1 pair of boots {Stlth+} Stlth ++++++.... R - amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} (curse) HPRegen 0.74/turn u - ring of poison resistance MPRegen 0.25/turn v - +3 ring of protection @: very slightly contaminated A: distributed training, fangs 1, icy blue scales 1, regeneration 1, strong nose a: Curse Item, Scrying, Renounce Religion, Evoke Blink You were on level 3 of the Elven Halls. You worshipped Ashenzari. Ashenzari was exalted by your worship. You were not hungry. You visited 7 branches of the dungeon, and saw 32 of its levels. You visited 1 bazaar. You also visited: Bailey, Ice Cave and Wizlab. You collected 3871 gold pieces. You spent 3455 gold pieces at shops. Inventory: Hand Weapons e - a +1 vampiric executioner's axe Z - the cursed +9 long sword of Springtime (weapon) {freeze, +Blink rElec rF-} (You found it on level 7 of the Dungeon) It has been specially enchanted to freeze those struck by it, causing extra injury to most foes and up to half again as much damage against particularly susceptible opponents. It can also slow down cold-blooded creatures. It makes you vulnerable to fire. It insulates you from electricity. It lets you blink. It has a curse placed upon it. Missiles a - 52 arrows Armour m - a +0 cloak (worn) q - a +2 helmet of see invisible (worn) w - a cursed +2 pair of gloves (worn) E - a +1 robe of fire resistance (worn) I - a +1 buckler of protection (worn) S - a +1 pair of boots of stealth (worn) Jewellery u - a ring of poison resistance (left hand) v - a +3 ring of protection (right hand) R - the cursed amulet of the Four Winds (around neck) {rN+ MR+++ Clar} (You found it on level 11 of the Dungeon) [amulet of nothing] It protects you from negative energy. It affects your resistance to hostile enchantments. It protects you against confusion. It has a curse placed upon it. Wands c - a wand of acid (8) n - a wand of paralysis (24) r - a wand of clouds (13) y - a wand of disintegration (12) F - a wand of iceblast (2) G - a wand of polymorph (10) U - a wand of digging (8) Y - a wand of enslavement (43) Scrolls b - a scroll of immolation i - 13 scrolls of teleportation s - 2 scrolls of amnesia t - 6 scrolls of identify x - 4 scrolls of fog B - a scroll of summoning K - 4 scrolls of fear T - 6 scrolls of remove curse W - a scroll of enchant weapon X - 10 scrolls of magic mapping Potions g - 5 potions of mutation k - a potion of brilliance l - 3 potions of agility o - 2 potions of lignification p - 8 potions of heal wounds z - 3 potions of might A - 20 potions of curing C - 3 potions of haste L - 2 potions of cancellation N - 4 potions of resistance Q - 2 potions of invisibility Miscellaneous H - a phial of floods (inert) J - a lightning rod (4/4) O - a phantom mirror V - a fan of gales Comestibles d - 20 rations Skills: + Level 12.3 Fighting + Level 12.3 Short Blades + Level 12.3(16.4) Long Blades + Level 12.3 Axes + Level 12.3 Maces & Flails + Level 12.3 Polearms + Level 12.3 Staves + Level 12.3 Slings + Level 12.3 Bows + Level 12.3 Crossbows + Level 12.3 Throwing + Level 12.3 Armour + Level 13.0 Dodging + Level 12.9 Stealth + Level 12.3 Shields + Level 12.3 Unarmed Combat + Level 13.1 Spellcasting + Level 10.6 Conjurations + Level 10.6 Hexes + Level 10.6 Charms + Level 10.6 Summonings + Level 10.6 Necromancy + Level 10.6 Translocations + Level 10.8 Transmutations + Level 10.6 Fire Magic + Level 10.6 Ice Magic + Level 10.6 Air Magic + Level 11.7 Earth Magic + Level 10.6 Poison Magic + Level 13.3 Invocations + Level 12.3 Evocations You had 15 spell levels left. You knew the following spells: Your Spells Type Power Failure Level Hunger a - Sandblast Erth ###### 1% 1 None b - Stone Arrow Conj/Erth ###### 1% 3 None c - Passwall Tmut/Erth ######.... 1% 2 None d - Lee's Rapid Deconstr Erth ######.... 1% 5 ###.... e - Petrify Tmut/Erth ######.. 1% 4 None f - Fireball Conj/Fire ######.... 1% 5 ###.... g - Mephitic Cloud Conj/Pois/Air ######.. 1% 3 None h - Summon Mana Viper Hex/Summ ######.. 1% 5 ###.... i - Summon Butterflies Summ ######.. 1% 1 None Dungeon Overview and Level Annotations Branches: Dungeon (15/15) Temple (1/1) D:5 Lair (6/6) D:8 Swamp (3/4) Lair:3 Spider (2/4) Lair:4 Slime (0/5) Lair:5 Orc (2/2) D:12 Elf (3/3) Orc:2 Vaults (0/5) D:13 Depths (0/5) D:15 Altars: Ashenzari Cheibriados Dithmenos Elyvilon Fedhas Gozag Hepliaklqana Kikubaaqudgha Makhleb Nemelex Xobeh Qazlal Ru Sif Muna Trog Uskayaw Vehumet Wu Jian Xom Yredelemnul Zin The Shining One Beogh Jiyva Shops: D:5 =[ D:8 ( D:9 [(* D:10 ! D:11 [ Orc:2 ([:* Elf:1 ! Elf:2 ( Portals: Trove: D:12 (give +4 demon trident) Annotations: D:6 xzight's ghost, novice MiBe D:7 ashleyrose's ghost, novice MiBe Lair:5 exclusion: 3 oklob plants Lair:6 MayorMcCheese's ghost, journeyman GrBe; fitz's ghost, journeyman HOFi Innate Abilities, Weirdness & Mutations Your experience applies equally to all skills. You have very sharp teeth. Your uncanny sense of smell can sniff out nearby items. You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +2) Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. Message History The arrow hits you!! You take 27 damage, and have 68/147 hp. You now have 15/36 mp. Blink to where? As you read the scroll of blinking, it crumbles to dust. Your mana viper barely misses the deep elf master archer. The deep elf master archer shoots an arrow. The arrow hits you!!! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The deep elf master archer shoots an arrow. The arrow barely misses you. Your mana viper bites the deep elf master archer!! You take 45 damage, and have 23/147 hp. MASSIVE DAMAGE!! You feel much better. Your mana viper disappears in a puff of smoke! The deep elf master archer shoots an arrow. The arrow hits you!! * * * LOW HITPOINT WARNING * * * The deep elf sorcerer casts a spell at you. The sphere of damnation explodes! The damnation engulfs you! You die... ,,#..#..#.....<.#<.#, ,, ,,, , ,#..#..#########..#* ** * * * #..#... , ...{. ,,, , ,#..#.... , ...{...., , ,,, **,...###'###################### , ,............................ ,, ...............e.§.)..e..... , , .........e....e§..(......... ** **#######'#.)@########.######. , ,, ,, ...#...# ###*{ ,∆ ....§#...# { , ,, .......#...# **,, ,,,, * **,,####...#...# * ,, ,* , , ,#...#...# * * **, , , , #...#...# *, , * *,{, ,,* , * ,#...# ** ,,*,*, , *,, , , * * * , , You could see a deep elf master archer, a deep elf death mage and a deep elf sorcerer. Vanquished Creatures An Ice Fiend (IceCv) 4 deep elf blademasters (Elf:2) 3 deep elf sorcerers An orc warlord (Orc:2) 2 emperor scorpions Nessos (D:12) 2 entropy weavers (Spider:1) A deep elf demonologist (Elf:1) 2 spark wasps (WizLab) Snorg (D:12) Josephine (D:10) 6 deep elf death magi A deep elf high priest (Elf:2) 7 hydras 2 centaur warriors 3 spriggan air magi (WizLab) 3 ghost crabs (WizLab) A rakshasa (D:14) A shock serpent (WizLab) 19 dancing weapons 5 alligators An ogre mage (D:13) 12 two-headed ogres 2 death yaks A queen ant (Spider:1) 4 tengu warriors The ghost of atlas1 the Geomancer, a novice DEEE of Sif Muna (Lair:1) An orc high priest (Orc:2) 15 deep elf knights The ghost of xzight the Cleaver, a novice MiBe of Trog (D:8) Nergalle (Orc:2) 2 sea snakes (Lair:6) 2 fire crabs (WizLab) A fire crab (shapeshifter) (D:13) 7 unseen horrors An unseen horror (shapeshifter) (Elf:2) A spriggan druid (Swamp:3) 7 deep elf archers Pikel (D:5) 3 shambling mangroves 8 orb spiders 11 orc knights 2 oklob plants 44 deep elf magi 15 wolf spiders 12 ugly things 3 orc sorcerers (Orc:2) A moth of wrath (Spider:1) 4 black mambas 11 elephants A centaur zombie (D:14) 5 manticores 2 ice statues A water nymph (shapeshifter) (D:15) An apocalypse crab (WizLab) A torpor snail (Lair:5) 3 gargoyles 6 komodo dragons A kobold demonologist (D:14) 16 spiny frogs A yaktaur (shapeshifter) (D:15) 6 rime drakes An anaconda simulacrum (IceCv) 6 ice devils (IceCv) 5 freezing wraiths A tengu conjurer (D:15) 9 demonic crawlers A golden dragon simulacrum (IceCv) 20 jumping spiders A harpy zombie (D:14) 5 trolls A wind drake (Lair:6) 4 polar bears (Lair:6) 4 tyrant leeches Prince Ribbit (Lair:2) 16 slime creatures 5 hornets 17 blink frogs 4 bog bodies 9 hippogriffs 11 dream sheep A hippogriff (shapeshifter) (Elf:2) A meliai zombie (D:13) 8 air elementals 2 shadows 2 centaur simulacra 3 water elementals 8 tarantellas 4 spriggans 4 hogs (D:7) 2 vampires 4 dire elephant simulacra (IceCv) 2 basilisks (Lair:2) 3 wyverns 52 yaks 6 wraiths 34 redbacks A human (D:7) 10 vampire mosquitoes A basilisk (shapeshifter) (Elf:1) 3 fire elementals A steam dragon (Lair:3) 16 swamp worms 5 wargs 2 iron troll simulacra (IceCv) An acid dragon (D:11) 6 harpy simulacra (IceCv) 14 soldier ants 4 hydra simulacra (IceCv) 13 water moccasins 6 porcupines 6 ice beasts A swamp drake (shapeshifter) (D:15) 44 orc warriors 4 black bears 2 necrophages An ettin simulacrum (IceCv) An eye of draining (D:13) 4 sky beasts 6 swamp drakes 5 ogres 2 phantoms (D:10) 3 boggarts (D:15) 14 crocodiles 16 wolves 10 centaurs 4 big kobolds 14 bullfrogs A wyvern zombie (D:6) 5 scorpions 6 wights 7 killer bees An elephant simulacrum (IceCv) 7 howler monkeys 3 electric eels 7 crimson imps A bullfrog zombie (D:5) 3 draconian simulacra (IceCv) 23 orc priests 5 hounds 15 jellies Crazy Yiuf (D:7) 2 bullfrog skeletons 4 centaur skeletons Jessica (D:2) 5 iguanas 7 hell rats (Lair:4) 28 orc wizards A spriggan simulacrum (IceCv) 3 troll simulacra (IceCv) 33 worker ants A wolf simulacrum (IceCv) A hound zombie (D:8) A hound skeleton (D:11) 3 worker ant zombies 6 gnolls A howler monkey skeleton (D:11) 11 adders 4 naga simulacra (IceCv) An ogre simulacrum (IceCv) 6 shadow imps 6 white imps (IceCv) 6 ufetubi (IceCv) 12 oozes 2 adder zombies 3 worms A dart slug (D:1) 7 leopard geckos 101 orcs A ball python (D:8) 3 giant cockroaches 2 goblins 6 hobgoblins 25 kobolds 3 quokkas 9 bats 7 frilled lizards A jackal skeleton (D:5) A leopard gecko skeleton (D:4) A quokka zombie (D:8) 8 rats 2 fungi A plant (Lair:3) 1175 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (collateral kills) A thorn hunter (Swamp:2) A deep elf high priest (Elf:3) A spriggan air mage (WizLab) A dancing weapon (Elf:2) A deep elf knight (Elf:2) 2 death drakes (WizLab) 3 deep elf magi (Elf:2) An elephant (Lair:2) A wind drake (WizLab) 5 dream sheep (Lair:4) A redback (Spider:1) A fire elemental (Elf:3) 19 creatures vanquished. Vanquished Creatures (others) A blizzard demon (WizLab) A shock serpent (WizLab) 3 slaves (D:6) An ogre (D:6) An iguana (D:6) An orc wizard (D:6) A worker ant (D:6) A leopard gecko (D:6) A quokka (D:6) A bush (Lair:3) 36 fungi 29 plants 77 creatures vanquished. Grand Total: 1271 creatures vanquished Notes Turn | Place | Note -------+----------+------------------------------------------- 0 | D:1 | iggy the Gnoll Earth Elementalist began the quest for the Orb. 0 | D:1 | Reached XP level 1. HP: 13/13 MP: 6/6 10 | D:1 | soadsod: GnEE! have fun! it is fun. EE is my favorite of the 4 17 | D:1 | HP: 6/13 [rat (2)] 352 | D:1 | Reached XP level 2. HP: 19/19 MP: 5/7 520 | D:1 | Reached XP level 3. HP: 25/25 MP: 2/9 552 | D:1 | iggy: gg 563 | D:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Stone Arrow 568 | D:1 | Learned a level 2 spell: Passwall 629 | D:1 | soadsod: why are you dead? you're fine 633 | D:1 | Reached skill level 5 in Spellcasting 639 | D:1 | soadsod: nice dagger 641 | D:1 | iggy: +3 sword 697 | D:2 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 791 | D:2 | soadsod: now, worship ash and get passwall and assassinate everything :D 882 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Invocations 925 | D:2 | Found a glowing golden altar of the Shining One. 927 | D:2 | Found a bloodstained altar of Trog. 1342 | D:2 | Noticed Jessica 1354 | D:2 | HP: 8/25 [Jessica/nerve-wracking pain (10)] 1355 | D:2 | Killed Jessica 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Fighting 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Short Blades 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Long Blades 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Axes 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Maces & Flails 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Polearms 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Staves 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Slings 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Bows 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Crossbows 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Throwing 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Armour 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Shields 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Unarmed Combat 1355 | D:2 | Reached skill level 1 in Evocations 1355 | D:2 | Reached XP level 4. HP: 10/32 MP: 1/11 1357 | D:2 | soadsod: whew 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Conjurations 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Hexes 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Charms 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Summonings 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Necromancy 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Translocations 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Fire Magic 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Ice Magic 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Air Magic 1752 | D:3 | Reached skill level 1 in Poison Magic 1895 | D:3 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 1907 | D:3 | Noticed a dagger 1907 | D:3 | Noticed a hand axe 2042 | D:3 | Found a hide-covered altar of Uskayaw. 2092 | D:3 | Reached XP level 5. HP: 37/37 MP: 4/12 2111 | D:3 | HP: 18/37 [something/magic dart (9)] 2112 | D:3 | soadsod: run 2112 | D:3 | iggy: yeah 2114 | D:3 | soadsod: oh wait. it sorc wizard 2120 | D:3 | soadsod: retreat into the black 2219 | D:3 | iggy: with the invis, it's incredibly difficult to hit him + he gets bonus 2301 | D:3 | soadsod: yea i know 2307 | D:3 | soadsod: wait no 2317 | D:3 | soadsod: you should have passwalled in and assassinated them 2320 | D:3 | iggy: oh interesting idea 2330 | D:3 | soadsod: it's so much fucking fun 2349 | D:3 | soadsod: literally the most fun i have with crawl: stabbing dudes 2442 | D:3 | iggy: i'm not familiar enough with passwall and how not to screw it up 2493 | D:3 | soadsod: i'll play weak characters _just_ to stab a bunch in the first 5 or so dungeon levels 2542 | D:3 | soadsod: it's really simple. you use passwall to GTFO, and you use passwall to assassinate people on the other side of walls 2559 | D:3 | iggy: but can't you get stuck in the wall or get hit for free? 2687 | D:3 | soadsod: you cant get stuck in the wall (well, i never have, and i've been hit on every turn i was going through the wall) 2714 | D:3 | soadsod: the enemy does get free attacks on you, but that's why you passwall before they're too close 2714 | D:3 | soadsod: so you could walk away, and go through the wall, land adjacent to the rat, and stab his face 2714 | D:3 | soadsod: see the blood spatter? 2715 | D:3 | soadsod: go north through the wall there 2726 | D:3 | iggy: i needed to land not on him 2730 | D:3 | soadsod: yea 2904 | D:4 | fictitious: whee, gnolls are fun. 2909 | D:4 | iggy: my skill levels are pretty terible tho 2909 | D:4 | iggy: i'm trying to envision how lair works 3027 | D:4 | fictitious: Gnoll is really powerful early, since your starting skills get multiplied by +8 aptitiudes. Then you get to suck by midgame, exactly as you imagine. Lair and S sucks a lot. 3037 | D:4 | Reached XP level 6. HP: 44/44 MP: 13/13 3047 | D:4 | fictitious: Then it gets better once you can use decent spells and weapons. 3053 | D:4 | iggy: well we have decent low mindelay 3053 | D:4 | iggy: that and stone arrow i'm seeing lair:5 3149 | D:4 | iggy: the stealth is secretly a big bonus here 3199 | D:4 | soadsod: um. don't forget you can go through walls diagonally with passwall 3367 | D:4 | fictitious: Of course, your god can help a lot. I like gods like Ashenzari (flat skill boosts) and Vehumet (let you cast over your skill) for gnolls. 3407 | D:4 | Reached skill level 5 in Dodging 3418 | D:4 | soadsod: ash is a very good choice for almost any character. 3418 | D:4 | iggy: who needs gods LUL 3551 | D:4 | soadsod: gnoll 3661 | D:4 | fictitious: Chei is also excellent and plays up the gnoll's "I can do anything" theme. 3670 | D:4 | soadsod: speaking of which, gnollcrawl was an interesting experimental crawl 3680 | D:4 | soadsod: yea, that makes sense about chei 3682 | D:4 | fictitious: Although playing with chei is a special challenge too. 3695 | D:4 | soadsod: yes. it is 3700 | D:4 | soadsod: you're _committed_ to basically every fight you enter 3718 | D:4 | Found a radiant altar of Vehumet. 3724 | D:4 | Identified Vehumet's Almanac of Arcane Weapons 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: But since you've already got armour/shield/casting/etc skills, might as well get the great int/str to use them all at once. 3726 | D:4 | iggy: tough call, don't really want this go 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: between chei and ash, i'd say you could get by with whichever altar you find first, with a slight preference for ash 3726 | D:4 | iggy: is ash a straight let me read this real quick 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: uh 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: I also like gozag for gnolls, but then I like gozag for everyone (except trolls, ghouls, and prolly mummies). 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: yea basically 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: and kobolds :P 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: ??ashenzari reasons 3726 | D:4 | beem: ashenzari reasons[1/3]: Big skill boosts for wearing cursed items, clarity, see invis, monster/item detection, and passive mapping, including portal detection (always) and stair detection (sometimes). Oh also some items get identified for you. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: ??ashenzari reasons[2] 3726 | D:4 | beem: ashenzari reasons[2/3]: Nikola the Mad Inventor comes into view. Ashenzari warns you: He is wielding a rapier of electrocution, wearing a cloak of invisibility and carrying a wand of paralysis. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: ??ashenzari reasons[3] 3726 | D:4 | beem: ashenzari reasons[3/3]: i found a book of the tempests and want to switch to tornado but i have pumped like 17 conjurations 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: kobolds aren't actually hurt by him worse than others. no full casters with gozag though. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: gotta be a hybrid? 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: Or fighter. Or necromutation rusher. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: In which case the food thing doesn't matter. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: For you, the main thing is that ashenzari gives flat bonus skills for each piece of cursed gear you wear. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: so if you wear a cursed ring, you get a flat bonus to all magic skills. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: That gets multiplied by aptitudes, like all other bonuses. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: So it's huge for gnolls. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: It takes you from being "crappy at everything' to "actually good at everything". 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: you get piety for exploring too. piety builds faster with more cursed gear. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: he's probably just reading the wiki page hahaha 3726 | D:4 | iggy: like what are we talking here 3726 | D:4 | iggy: the wiki si very confusing 3726 | D:4 | iggy: is it like +2 levels or like +5 levels 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: it's bigger when your skill level is lower 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: When I did my gnoll with ash, the difference was ~11 in each spell school without cursed jewelerry, up to 17-18 with it. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: uh...probably like 3 or 4 levels? 3726 | D:4 | iggy: i see this chart that says "high" and "low" bonuses 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: It's a lot. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: Yeah, that part is good for gnolls too. You'll never have baseline high skills. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: i guess gnolls got more than my Ds. makes sense if apts increase Ash's bonus 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: Unless you do postgame content. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: You cap out at level 27 with like 15-18 in skills base. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: So ash's bonus is always relevant. 3726 | D:4 | iggy: i'm not sure how far we take this guy, depends how zot goes 3726 | D:4 | iggy: i don't think we're going vehemet 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: I think gnolls are great postgame if you find a necronomicon. 3726 | D:4 | fictitious: Just go necromutation and kill everything however you want. 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: yea i wouldn't go veh with a gnoll 3726 | D:4 | iggy: does ashs' move xp from 1 to the other 3726 | D:4 | soadsod: yes 3726 | D:4 | iggy: haha 3727 | D:4 | Found an ancient bone altar of Kikubaaqudgha. 3728 | D:4 | Found a deep blue altar of Sif Muna. 3740 | D:4 | fictitious: You can't move xp with gnolls. It takes the power off your religion screen. 3741 | D:4 | soadsod: it's piety expensive but it lets gnolls specialize a little bit 3748 | D:4 | soadsod: oh? really? 3752 | D:4 | fictitious: Yeah. It's unusable. 3757 | D:4 | soadsod: damn. i didn't know. 3759 | D:4 | Reached XP level 7. HP: 48/50 MP: 4/15 3771 | D:4 | fictitious: Manuals and your starting skills (and ash) are the only ways to improve one skill at the expense of others as a gnoll. 3793 | D:4 | fictitious: But ash's curse bonus, I mean. Not his invocation. 4117 | D:5 | Entered Level 5 of the Dungeon 4165 | D:5 | fictitious: I don't think vehumet is bad, although I've not played it myself. The flat fail% reduction would mean you could cast better blasts with your limited skill. 4230 | D:5 | fictitious: Like, you could use level 7-8 destruction spells in time for it to matter using him. 4265 | D:5 | fictitious: Ash and chei also do this, differently with different drawbacks. 4315 | D:5 | soadsod: i've played a bunch of vehumet casters. it's really good if you've got strong AoE spells like fireball/LRD and (later) ignition, firestorm, etc 4315 | D:5 | iggy: yeah i'm kinda thinking gozag tbh 4331 | D:5 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 4345 | D:5 | soadsod: chei! 4349 | D:5 | Found a staircase to the Ecumenical Temple. 4355 | Temple | Entered the Ecumenical Temple 4579 | Temple | fictitious: Gozag is good for everyone, but I especially like him for gnolls because whatever great artifacts are in your spawned stores, you can use. 4586 | Temple | soadsod: hmm. decision time 4593 | Temple | soadsod: if you feel more comfortable with gozag, use gozag 4593 | Temple | fictitious: Also, dual gold/item detection passives are awesome, although not particularly powerful. 4593 | Temple | iggy: gozag has a lot of issues 4593 | Temple | iggy: i don't really badly need a god at this very moment besides giving up the usefulness 4593 | Temple | fictitious: Lost piety gain is an opportunity cost. 4593 | Temple | iggy: yup 4593 | Temple | iggy: i can't go gozag imho too much spell food cost 4593 | Temple | fictitious: You could always go oka. Oka is never wrong. 4593 | Temple | soadsod: i still think ash or chei would be good choices, though i lean to ash slightly more than chei 4593 | Temple | iggy: ash nearly seems broken 4593 | Temple | soadsod: ash is really, really good 4595 | Temple | soadsod: for damn near any ANY char 4595 | Temple | fictitious: The drawback matters more than you might think though... when I did my gnoll of ash, I had to stop cursing my equipment due to lack of scrolls. 4595 | Temple | fictitious: You burn through them pretty quick, especially as a gnoll. 4595 | Temple | iggy: yeah 4595 | Temple | soadsod: that's not so bad unless you're relying a lot on the support to skills 4595 | Temple | soadsod: i usually keep 1 ring slot open 4595 | Temple | Became a worshipper of Ashenzari the Shackled 4602 | Temple | soadsod: auxiliary stuff like cloak, boots, gloves, you can always keep those cursed (almost all the time anyway) 4604 | Temple | fictitious: Skill support is kinda the whole point. :) Gnolls are hurt more by the curses since you can use every item. You might conceivably want to make swaps other species couldn't, like light to heavy armor, entire weapon classes, 2H vs. shield, etc. 4604 | Temple | soadsod: curse decent auxiliary things like those gloves now for more piety 4608 | D:5 | soadsod: yea. i realized that after i said "that's not so bad unless you're reling a lot on the support to skills" 4608 | D:5 | fictitious: Btw, the weapon skill bonus for a cursed 2h weapon is huge, so large I actually recommend a two hander for gnoll of ash. Soad will disagree. 4608 | D:5 | soadsod: that's because i love shields, evne if they hurt cast chance 4696 | D:5 | Found Quvomioh's Jewellery Boutique. 4704 | D:5 | iggy: wow 4704 | D:5 | fictitious: Now, see, chei wanted you to buy that ring. And worship him. 4704 | D:5 | iggy: he did 4704 | D:5 | iggy: he sure did 4704 | D:5 | soadsod: but! your gnoll (pretty sure it was a gnoll you had, you've got so many wins i can't track them all :P) was completely destroying stuff with a triple sword 4704 | D:5 | iggy: that ring is pretty nuts 4704 | D:5 | soadsod: yea it is 4722 | D:5 | fictitious: That was a merfolk of WJC. Gnoll was using a laja, then an element staff that didn't work as well as I hoped, then mostly spells. 4724 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in icy blue scales. (AC +2) [potion of mutation] 4724 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You have large cloven feet. [potion of mutation] 4724 | D:5 | Gained mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [potion of mutation] 4724 | D:5 | Gained mutation: You evolve. [potion of mutation] 4725 | D:5 | fictitious: merfolk of wjc + triple sword is such a facewrecking. 4725 | D:5 | soadsod: you sick bastard! 4729 | D:5 | Found Ehacadai's Armour Shop. 4734 | D:5 | soadsod: you won the mutation lottery 4742 | D:5 | Reached skill level 5 in Stealth 4753 | D:5 | iggy: !rigged 4753 | D:5 | soadsod: yea...triple swords are amazing. 4851 | D:5 | soadsod: but it helped that Mf was an EV char, which means more riposting 4867 | D:5 | Reached XP level 8. HP: 57/57 MP: 1/16 4872 | D:5 | fictitious: that was the whole idea for using a long blade. I skipped the +4 polearm aptitude for entirely that reason. 5005 | D:5 | soadsod: yea i remember you said something like that. i think i was busy eating easter food that day or something 5008 | D:5 | Found a hazy altar of Hepliaklqana. 5202 | D:5 | fictitious: There actually aren't that many species with good long blades + dodge proficiencies. Other than merfolk ... tengu, minotaur, vampire? That's all I can think of. Gnolls don't count. 5759 | D:6 | soadsod: Te is dangerous to play like that. You'll get great EV, but you'll die easy because -20% hp. Te are a lot of fun actually. 5841 | D:6 | HP: 27/58 [wyvern zombie (7)] 6024 | D:6 | Noticed Pikel 6025 | D:6 | fictitious: Yeah, MF seemed a lot more durable. I don't have a Te win, just one or two attempts. 6048 | D:5 | Killed Pikel 6263 | D:6 | soadsod: they're really cool. their apts are a bit of a mess, but pretty good overall 6294 | D:6 | Gained mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4) [evolution] 6341 | D:6 | soadsod: brb 6347 | D:6 | Reached XP level 9. HP: 50/65 MP: 6/18 6511 | D:6 | fictitious: only species with fast movement (after lv 14) and positive conjurations skill -- prolly the best if you want to do the keepaway caster thing. 6901 | D:6 | Noticed xzight's ghost (novice MiBe) 7010 | D:7 | Noticed ashleyrose's ghost (novice MiBe) 7010 | D:7 | fictitious: meet the new ghost, same as the old ghost? 7030 | D:7 | HP: 25/65 [ashleyrose's ghost (17)] 7520 | D:7 | Found a glowing silver altar of Zin. 7604 | D:6 | soadsod: ghost with an executioner axe=RUN AWAY VERY FAST (also im still afk, just making sure you didnt die :) 7640 | D:6 | iggy: i don't have the resources to do anything to them 7640 | D:6 | iggy: just kinda a dumb piece of design that i'm glad to see die 7640 | D:6 | fictitious: 'glad to see die'? Did they say they were removing them? 7640 | D:6 | iggy: they shoudln't be in trunk 7686 | D:7 | Identified the +9 long sword of Springtime {freeze, +Blink rElec rF-} 7686 | D:7 | iggy: ... 7686 | D:7 | iggy: if that is a mimic 7686 | D:7 | iggy: i'm done 7686 | D:7 | fictitious: Hmm, dunno how I feel about that. 7686 | D:7 | iggy: although this floor 7686 | D:7 | iggy: did spawn many bad things already 7686 | D:7 | iggy: i think they get far too much AC and HP at low levels 7686 | D:7 | fictitious: Yeah, I think the balance was off, but the concept was fine. 7686 | D:7 | iggy: like me right now i have no actual tools to do anything 7686 | D:7 | iggy: yeah i'm kinda ok with that, but literally the only way to deal with them is stuff like tank n conjure flame 7686 | D:7 | iggy: or just be far overleveled so as a regular player it kinda just ends up dumb 7686 | D:7 | iggy: uniques pose a more interesting challenge and are better tempo'ed with where you're at 7686 | D:7 | iggy: being given something that's impossible isn't fun 7686 | D:7 | fictitious: summons work, wand of paralyze works if you have about 8 evocations. Rage works if you're a BE to start with. 7686 | D:7 | iggy: when i started playing this game 7686 | D:7 | iggy: really now 7686 | D:7 | iggy: last game i played with 15 evokes it had 0% paralyze :P 7686 | D:7 | fictitious: You can kill about any ghost with summon imp if you've got it. 7686 | D:7 | iggy: early on sure 7686 | D:7 | iggy: but not everyone starts with summon imp 7702 | D:7 | iggy: wow it's real 7702 | D:7 | iggy: whelp we're doing this 7704 | D:7 | fictitious: Early game ghosts = run no matter what. I think that's actually fine, it keeps the early game from being predictable. Like, I'm not sure how often I'd ever die after level 1 if there weren't ghosts. 7704 | D:7 | fictitious: They force you deeper than you want to be, and mess up your plans when you think you can kite or pillar dance safely. 7704 | D:7 | iggy: i'd rather see a couple more dnagerous uniques 7704 | D:7 | iggy: and i think that can be accomplished by other means that's more interesting 7704 | D:7 | iggy: apparently on more popular servers people will actually make griefing ghost characters too 7704 | D:7 | iggy: it's one of those things if it were a toggle on/off i'd never complain and just turn them off 7762 | D:7 | Learned a level 5 spell: Lee's Rapid Deconstruction 7767 | D:7 | Learned a level 4 spell: Petrify 7768 | D:7 | Lost mutation: You are partially covered in large bone plates. (SH +4) [evolution] 7834 | D:7 | fictitious: Game is certainly easier without them. And winning feels nice, so as a player it's hard to complain... but sometimes what's best for the player isn't best for the game. 7974 | D:7 | iggy: i mean you could add anything else hard 7974 | D:7 | iggy: i don't see what's interesting about needing niche strategies on hand to deal with them 7974 | D:7 | iggy: when without them you have no option 8050 | D:7 | Found a stormy altar of Qazlal. 8079 | D:7 | Reached * piety under Ashenzari 8129 | D:7 | iggy: HOG HEAVEN 8143 | D:7 | HP: 26/66 [hog (9)] 8326 | D:7 | Reached skill level 5 in Invocations 8626 | D:8 | fictitious: No, I don't actually like them either. You'd just need... some other pervasive risk to fledgling characters. Just adding uniques wouldn't change much unless you also increase the unique spawn rate. I dunno, more nasty traps like shafts? One-way staircases like the tomb? More guaranteed OOD monsters? 8646 | D:8 | soadsod: back 8646 | D:8 | fictitious: That all sounds like pretty bad ideas. 8646 | D:8 | iggy: i mean add 1-2 uniques to every floor 8646 | D:8 | iggy: jessica nearly killed me 8646 | D:8 | iggy: well i knew what i was dealing with but it was a danger moment 8646 | D:8 | iggy: but there was play--potion of might 8759 | D:8 | Reached XP level 10. HP: 73/73 MP: 14/20 8821 | D:8 | Noticed xzight's ghost (novice MiBe) 8887 | D:8 | Found Veracija's Antique Weapon Boutique. 8888 | D:8 | iggy: petrify is a bit of a shot 8888 | D:8 | iggy: we might have tools to take out ghosts now 8924 | D:8 | HP: 33/73 [xzight's ghost (12)] 8930 | D:7 | fictitious: But, yeah, ghost concept is broken in various ways. Like, it depends on what time of day you play, for some reason. When server activity is high, there's not many ghosts, but at night like this they're everywhere. 9069 | D:6 | iggy: well like what just happened there :X 9069 | D:6 | soadsod: yea i saw that 9069 | D:6 | iggy: we do have blink 9069 | D:6 | iggy: i just don't have infinite manna 9157 | D:6 | soadsod: you cant petrify ghosts 9170 | D:6 | fictitious: You sure? it would tell you if you couldn't I'd think. 9269 | D:5 | fictitious: Like, it won't let you cast poison bolt on them or whatever. 9271 | D:6 | soadsod: it says something like "it has no effect" 9272 | D:6 | soadsod: i know, it's dumb. probably a bug 9272 | D:6 | iggy: it says 30% 9295 | D:6 | soadsod: i've cast petrify with about that (or better) dozens of times on the same ghost. no dice 9298 | D:6 | fictitious: ... don't you have fire vulnerability? 9298 | D:6 | soadsod: there it is 9300 | D:6 | soadsod: unaffected 9304 | D:5 | iggy: it has failed numerous times at 30% 9304 | D:5 | iggy: so that's a bug 9400 | D:5 | fictitious: good to know. 9425 | D:5 | soadsod: no. it doesn't affect them. it should just say 0% 9447 | D:6 | soadsod: at leaast you're not following chei. you'd be dead 9486 | D:7 | fictitious: With only one * he could still run. Just a bit of extra damage. 9486 | D:7 | iggy: i can't experiment on chei i wouldn't have even bothered trying 9497 | D:7 | Found a runed door. 9501 | D:7 | Noticed Crazy Yiuf 9504 | D:7 | Killed Crazy Yiuf 9586 | D:8 | fictitious: Ok, I've got to to see if I can experience this ghost-free future for myself. 9589 | D:8 | soadsod: we do have rf-. be careful 9589 | D:8 | Noticed a death yak 9595 | D:8 | soadsod: hmm? 9595 | D:8 | soadsod: what? 9598 | D:8 | soadsod: they're taking ghosts off trunk? 9599 | D:8 | fictitious: According to iggy, the trunk build has removed ghosts. 9601 | D:8 | soadsod: i don't believe it. this is 0.21? 9602 | D:8 | Killed a death yak 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Fighting 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Short Blades 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Long Blades 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Axes 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Maces & Flails 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Polearms 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Staves 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Slings 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Bows 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Crossbows 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Throwing 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Armour 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Shields 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Unarmed Combat 9602 | D:8 | Reached skill level 5 in Evocations 9603 | D:8 | iggy: 21 9603 | D:8 | soadsod: i'm basically always on trunk these days. i'm pretty sure i saw a ghost 9603 | D:8 | fictitious: Allegedly. Going to go check. 9603 | D:8 | soadsod: hmm. 9603 | D:8 | iggy: might be future plans 9616 | D:8 | Noticed a death yak 9616 | D:8 | soadsod: i'll check my OgTm 9764 | D:8 | Noticed a death yak 9765 | D:8 | Noticed a death yak 9797 | D:8 | iggy: these death yaks are a problem 9805 | D:8 | HP: 34/74 [death yak (11)] 9814 | D:7 | soadsod: pillar dance 9815 | D:7 | soadsod: wait 9816 | D:7 | soadsod: damn 9817 | D:7 | soadsod: we got a plan! 9817 | D:7 | iggy: they do 30 damage a hit 9817 | D:7 | iggy: lol 9823 | D:7 | soadsod: we got a plan 9836 | D:7 | soadsod: didn't work 9987 | D:6 | soadsod: use different stairs 10016 | D:7 | soadsod: we can passwall when theey're about 5 steps away. we should be alright 10026 | D:7 | soadsod: that'll help, but 5 EV is awful 10026 | D:7 | soadsod: better than the robe, by far 10042 | D:7 | soadsod: scale mail? 10082 | D:8 | soadsod: also, my report about ghosts 10121 | D:8 | soadsod: i upgraded the game at about 40k turns. 10k turns later, i still haven't come across another player ghost 10123 | D:8 | soadsod: it's a weak metric, but that's my data 10286 | D:8 | soadsod: why isn't there a treant race? 10414 | D:9 | soadsod: got a question? 10420 | D:9 | Found a basalt altar of Yredelemnul. 10420 | D:9 | Found a burning altar of Makhleb. 10624 | D:9 | Gained mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [evolution] 10704 | D:9 | Found Qepimem's Weapon Shop. 10727 | D:9 | Found Micwuem's Antique Armour Boutique. 10744 | D:9 | Bought an ichor-stained robe for 148 gold pieces 10744 | D:9 | soadsod: damn 10767 | D:9 | soadsod: it'd have to be +5 to be worth wearing 10786 | D:9 | soadsod: even then, not worth it 10802 | D:9 | Found Zigenah's General Store. 10836 | D:9 | iggy: i'd accept a lot of intrinsics 10866 | D:9 | Reached skill level 5 in Transmutations 11105 | D:9 | fictitious: sigh. Another lost game thanks to no godammn potions of curing spawning before d:8. 11143 | D:10 | Entered Level 10 of the Dungeon 11144 | D:10 | soadsod: wow. that's bullshit luck. 11149 | D:10 | Found a flagged portal. 11156 | D:10 | fictitious: Happens about every other game these days. 11166 | D:10 | soadsod: that plate armor! 11173 | D:10 | soadsod: could be good (or cursed) 11184 | D:10 | soadsod: it's awful 11184 | D:10 | soadsod: already cursed, so it's gonna be - 11198 | D:10 | fictitious: Anyway, dungeon is still full of ghosts, so news of their demise was exaggerated. 11200 | D:10 | iggy: might be a 'soon' thing 11201 | Bailey | Entered a bailey 11201 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 11201 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 11202 | Bailey | soadsod: i saw suggestions for change to dithmenos shadow step 11202 | Bailey | iggy: well this portal ain't going to work 11202 | Bailey | soadsod: at the github 11202 | Bailey | soadsod: yea...get outta here 11202 | Bailey | iggy: we might be fine i'm just weighting options 11202 | Bailey | iggy: there's a lot of xp here but the xbow guys are a worry 11202 | Bailey | soadsod: https://github.com/crawl/crawl/wiki/Dithmenos-shadow-step-changes 11208 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 11208 | Bailey | Noticed an orc knight 11215 | Bailey | soadsod: waitr 11215 | Bailey | soadsod: petrify+LRD 11215 | Bailey | iggy: i think we know yeah 11215 | Bailey | soadsod: ah, ok. 11215 | Bailey | iggy: i want their buddies who cannot go over water are out first 11217 | Bailey | soadsod: i wish we had cloud. 11223 | Bailey | soadsod: we flickered 11223 | Bailey | iggy: it's amazing we have no wands 11223 | Bailey | iggy: and like nothing 11223 | Bailey | soadsod: we should bail 11232 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 11241 | Bailey | iggy: i think you meant more balls i hope :P 11648 | Bailey | soadsod: blow him to smithereens! 11655 | Bailey | soadsod: OMG 11657 | Bailey | soadsod: we can pick up a crossbow, and those bolts...and shoot them! 11666 | Bailey | soadsod: we're are a gnoll! 11789 | Bailey | Reached XP level 11. HP: 68/81 MP: 4/22 11790 | Bailey | soadsod: or that glaive! and stab him from afar while he's petrified 11799 | Bailey | fictitious: but ashenzari. :) 11802 | Bailey | fictitious: See, I told you the drawback mattered for gnolls. 11806 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 11810 | Bailey | iggy: drawback? 11810 | Bailey | soadsod: yep 11821 | Bailey | Identified the +4 longbow of Anguish {velocity, Str+4} 11825 | Bailey | soadsod: like i said, i realized it after i said it 11828 | Bailey | fictitious: the whole 'your items are usually cursed' thing. 11912 | Bailey | soadsod: so you can't easily unequip them 11912 | Bailey | iggy: i usually end up with a massive pile of remove curse 11913 | Bailey | soadsod: man, it really sucks for gnolls! it's not so bad for Ds/Dr/everyone else basically 11914 | Bailey | soadsod: yea 11915 | Bailey | soadsod: i do too 12045 | Bailey | fictitious: In particular, you can't follow the advice we were just giving with the glaive or crossbow. 12046 | Bailey | soadsod: unless i worship ash. then crawl says "we give you less remove curse scrolls now" 12046 | Bailey | soadsod: yea 12053 | Bailey | fictitious: There's never enough RC scrolls. Ever. 12173 | Bailey | soadsod: a normal gnoll could just pick up anything and be effective with it. ash is harder because you need to have lots of cursed items 12185 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 12212 | Bailey | Killed an orc knight 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Conjurations 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Hexes 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Charms 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Summonings 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Necromancy 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Translocations 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Fire Magic 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Ice Magic 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Air Magic 12212 | Bailey | Reached skill level 5 in Poison Magic 12213 | Bailey | soadsod: ok, i'm glad we didn't run. 12213 | Bailey | iggy: my last morgue fict i had about 50, i left them on the groundi had so many extra 12221 | Bailey | fictitious: Like, what do you think a normal number of RC scrolls in a game is? 20-30 is my experience. You've got 8 equipment slots, so that's 1/3 of them just to curse all your gear *once*. If you use 1 and a half scrolls per swap, you can change equipment maybe 12 times in the whole game. 12226 | Bailey | soadsod: was that your Dg? he doesn't count :P 12258 | Bailey | soadsod: 20-30 sounds right. 12367 | D:10 | fictitious: That's assuming you always try to curse everything and don't find pre-cursed items and so on. So you can do a bit better than that. But, still, it matters, you can't just swap as much as you want. 12400 | D:10 | Found Teotear's Distillery. 12412 | D:10 | fictitious: I remember wearing an amulet of inaccuracy *on purpose* with my ash gnoll just because it was the only amulet I had and I really needed the skill boost & piety. 12515 | D:10 | soadsod: so about cursed item management with ash. i have found most success by cursing weapon, shield, ring, amulet, helm, boots, gloves, cloak. i leave some uncursed on purpose because they're crap and will swap soon. i also leave some uncursed so i can quick swap for resist (most noticeable on rings) 12642 | D:10 | soadsod: i don't know why we don't have more piety right now actually. 12648 | D:10 | iggy: i think only 2 slots locked and we got stalled 12648 | D:10 | soadsod: it seems to me we should have ** or *** 12648 | D:10 | fictitious: You were using an uncursed weapon for a while too, after you found the artifact. 12650 | D:10 | iggy: don't think i was, i picked it up to make sure it's not bad on accuracy since we're still low 12650 | D:10 | iggy: yeah you're right 12654 | D:10 | Found a sparkling altar of Nemelex Xobeh. 12675 | D:10 | fictitious: My default strategy is the same... except, if you're trying to be a caster-type gnoll, the skill difference for cursing the 3rd jewelery slot is huge. 12682 | D:10 | fictitious: It's usually the difference between being able to cast 6th level spells or not. 12684 | D:10 | soadsod: nemelex. he looks like a fun gnoll god actually. 12726 | D:10 | fictitious: Not that I disagree, but what about him is good for gnolls in particular? 12746 | D:10 | soadsod: you can use anything you want (good for gnolls) but you also get cards to do stuff 12746 | D:10 | iggy: raises the overall value of all cards 12782 | D:10 | soadsod: i suppose it's not really different from, say, Mf or Ho, just seems different in my head 12782 | D:10 | fictitious: But the cards don't actually depend on your skills, invocations aside. 12795 | D:10 | soadsod: invoke is a gnoll's best apt 12795 | D:10 | fictitious: Like, summoning an ally is summoning an ally. 12795 | D:10 | soadsod: +9 or something 12795 | D:10 | fictitious: Nevertheless, a regular race with +3 will have more. 12795 | D:10 | iggy: i mean a deck of weapons, spell boost, summoning, etc. you can make the most use of 'everything' 12795 | D:10 | soadsod: i suppose 12807 | D:10 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 12814 | D:10 | soadsod: petrify! 12816 | D:10 | Killed a two-headed ogre 12822 | D:10 | Lost mutation: Your spells are a little harder to cast, but a little more powerful. [evolution] 12823 | D:10 | soadsod: petrify and stab! i love to stab. i think i might have a problem with that lol 12829 | D:10 | soadsod: wtf? 12834 | D:10 | fictitious: Spell boost? I played a nemelex character and never got any such thing. 12837 | D:10 | soadsod: wait? what was that? 12853 | D:10 | soadsod: why did we have a genetic drift? 12853 | D:10 | fictitious: And the only weapons I saw were the summoned dancing ones. 13019 | D:10 | soadsod: honestly, gnolls are good with any god, ash included :P 13044 | D:10 | iggy: wow what a waraxe 13049 | D:10 | soadsod: yep 13252 | D:10 | Noticed Josephine 13253 | D:10 | fictitious: Let's see, worst gnoll gods! ... Ru? Attacks gnoll's main strength. Jivya -- I think mutations are very bad for gnolls -- you don't want to risk losing equipment slots or anything else that limits your versatility. 13253 | D:10 | soadsod: she killed my GnEE! 13253 | D:10 | soadsod: i'd prefer jivya with a gnoll to Ru with a gnoll. 13260 | D:10 | fictitious: Trog -- wastes a whole lot of skills. 13264 | D:10 | Killed Josephine 13265 | D:10 | soadsod: uh. i think you couldn't do it 13265 | D:10 | soadsod: trog gets angry if you even train magic 13266 | D:10 | soadsod: (learned that from oofcrawl) 13274 | D:10 | fictitious: Not gnoll though. Special exception. 13281 | D:10 | fictitious: Just like the good gods and necromancy. 13285 | D:10 | fictitious: They let gnolls do it. 13286 | D:10 | soadsod: oh really? lucky them 13319 | D:10 | soadsod: ah. didn't know 13319 | D:10 | soadsod: i honestly haven't played gnolls much; they just feel OP 13319 | D:10 | soadsod: overpowered i mean. not octopode 13319 | D:10 | fictitious: Xom -- bad for everyone. Heplia -- 10% hp hurts and no real synergy with what you're doing. 13319 | D:10 | iggy: this is actually pretty challengins soad 13385 | D:10 | soadsod: yea. mid game is always harder for gnoll 13481 | D:10 | fictitious: ... gnolls good with every other god. :) 13501 | D:11 | Noticed a two-headed ogre 13513 | D:11 | soadsod: hep doesn't give any special synergy, so i'd say that's a neutral choice 13513 | D:11 | Killed a two-headed ogre 13518 | D:11 | Noticed a green ugly thing 13520 | D:11 | Gained mutation: Your natural rate of healing is unusually fast. [evolution] 13521 | D:11 | soadsod: use that armor? 13630 | D:11 | fictitious: But 10% hp turns you into a fragile race, and you probably want to melee at least some of the time. 13646 | D:11 | fictitious: Like, I did troll for my heplia run because I could afford the penalty more, and needed the help and had no other way to summon it besides divine powers. 13646 | D:11 | soadsod: stop using LRD so much. petrify+stabbing is very effective (unless RNG messes with you and makes you fail those 40% chances 5 times in a row) 13649 | D:11 | Killed a green ugly thing 13649 | D:11 | Reached XP level 12. HP: 89/89 MP: 16/24 13806 | D:11 | fictitious: like, if a gnoll wants help you can just cast a summon spell. 13806 | D:11 | iggy: that definitely works, i don't see a reason to walk into petrified enemies 13810 | D:11 | Found Houcucau's Antique Armour Boutique. 13815 | D:11 | Found the amulet of the Four Winds {rN+ MR+++ Clar} 13823 | D:11 | soadsod: that makes a lot of sense. about hep and your troll. 13823 | D:11 | iggy: oh wow my favourite item 13823 | D:11 | soadsod: i suppose it's just a different play style? 13825 | D:11 | fictitious: Hat of the alchemist! 13825 | D:11 | fictitious: But four winds is my second favorite item. :) 13825 | D:11 | iggy: i mean it works, i hate stabbers kinda? i dunno if i do your strat i certainly can pull and have them come back 13825 | D:11 | soadsod: the thing is, when you petrify an enemy in a choke point like that, the enemies behind the petrified one can't walk through him 13825 | D:11 | iggy: but i'm really tempted to petrify then walk into a room 13825 | D:11 | iggy: oh true 13825 | D:11 | iggy: i only have about 4-5 spells tho 13825 | D:11 | soadsod: yea i know 13825 | D:11 | iggy: i tend to think hmm 4 casts will kill 5 yaks 13825 | D:11 | soadsod: i almost always meemorize the whole book too 13903 | D:11 | soadsod: um. shield of resistance is probably my favorite unrand 13909 | D:11 | soadsod: or wyrmbane 13913 | D:11 | fictitious: See, if it were me I'd just spam sandblast and melee, given a +9 longsword. 13923 | D:11 | soadsod: there's that too, yea. +9 longsword is very nice, too bad it's not fire for hydras. 13923 | D:11 | iggy: petfiy would solve that i think 13933 | D:11 | soadsod: ah yes! 13974 | D:11 | soadsod: i've done that. how did i forget? >.< 13974 | D:11 | fictitious: I usually don't even memorize petrify. Hexing is in general not my style. I'd rather use spells that don't fail half the time. 13974 | D:11 | soadsod: yea 13974 | D:11 | soadsod: being a slave to the RNG sucks! 13974 | D:11 | Bought a pair of embroidered boots for 180 gold pieces 13974 | D:11 | Bought a runed helmet for 180 gold pieces 13974 | D:11 | fictitious: I do it when playing vampires, but that doesn't mean I like it! 13991 | D:11 | fictitious: (also, at least their hexes mostly work thanks to +5 apt.) 13991 | D:11 | soadsod: well. vamps can get away with it because bat mode if things don't work out. vamps also get awesome apts for it 14011 | D:11 | soadsod: curse the poison resist 14011 | D:11 | fictitious: So I've got a build planned out with VpEn + Uskayaw. So much free stabbing. But I usually don't feel like stabbing so only tried it a couple times. Last time I unwisely tried to melee a hydra and... it didn't work out. 14011 | D:11 | soadsod: damn 14029 | D:11 | Reached ** piety under Ashenzari 14032 | D:11 | iggy: oh there's the bonus 14208 | D:11 | fictitious: 3 skill already, with only **. And a 1H weapon, would be twice as much for 2H (x2 xp is not twice as many levels, thanks to the way scaling works. But still, more.) 14224 | D:11 | soadsod: i learned from you fic the best way to win this game is to have a hydra plan, and then a shoals plan, and an OoF plan. if you have a solid plan for those you can win or get very close 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: sandblast 14244 | D:11 | fictitious: "hope the shoals doesn't appear this game" is a bad shoals plan, by the way. 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: if you miss, you hit the other orc 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: yea. i know. lol 14244 | D:11 | iggy: vegas hockey team, expansion team this year, about to sweep first round of playoffs lol 14244 | D:11 | iggy: off a team that won the cup couple years ago 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: wow. impressive 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: kings? 14244 | D:11 | iggy: yup 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: huh. very cool! 14244 | D:11 | iggy: this has been the best series in the first round 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: i don't get espn anymore >.< 14244 | D:11 | fictitious: Also, you need a vault:5 plan too. You left that one out. "Get the abyss rune instead" *is* a valid vault:5 plan. 14244 | D:11 | iggy: you're a math person 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: maybe >.> 14244 | D:11 | iggy: you understand they really messed up the playoffs when it's not 1-8 seeds but 2 sets of 1-4 seeds 14244 | D:11 | iggy: they did it for ratings 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: i got a degree in math, and i like reading some text books about applied math, but that doesn't make me a math person. sorry! 14244 | D:11 | iggy: :P 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: argh. no. i like the older system 14244 | D:11 | iggy: basically it's not exactly fair to teams that did well--they're given harder early matchups and generally within their division 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: i only like a low number of play off teams when there's not a series 14244 | D:11 | fictitious: I'm prettysure holding a math degree makes you a math person. Regardless of whether you try to disavow the label or not. 14244 | D:11 | soadsod: aka, football 14244 | D:11 | iggy: they did this to maintain 'divisional rivalries' ultimately to make sure they have juicy 1st/2nd round matchups w/ high ratings 14244 | D:11 | iggy: i really like hockey playoffs' format 14244 | D:11 | iggy: it's kinda like a cricket test series 14255 | D:11 | fictitious: Also, wow, we're talking about sportsball. Us real geeks are going afk for a bit to get a snack. :) 14255 | D:11 | soadsod: uh.....i'm gonna go sweat profusely in the corner now (you're right and i just don't like to admit. i really don't like the instant sterotypes people apply to me when they find out i have a degree in math) 14293 | D:11 | soadsod: what? sports and math go together like physics and math. how can you have one without the other? 14385 | D:11 | soadsod: i miss espn a lot actually. 14385 | D:11 | soadsod: brb 14385 | D:11 | fictitious: I'm pretty sure most of the people aren't there for the math. :) 14385 | D:11 | iggy: they recently published an article that bowlers in cricket (and i assume pitchers in baseball)--the human body has reached the limit of how fast they can hurl a ball in those motions 14548 | D:11 | soadsod: tell that to aroldis chapman :P 14639 | D:11 | soadsod: it's their loss if they're ignoring the math fictitious :) 14670 | D:11 | soadsod: there it is 14751 | D:11 | soadsod: third time was the charm 14966 | D:11 | Lost mutation: Your mind is acute. (Int +2) [evolution] 15029 | D:11 | iggy: i already had +2 INT :P 15029 | D:11 | soadsod: pass/fail magic would be cooler if it always worked, it was just slower or faster depending on power vs mr. 15029 | D:11 | soadsod: but that might be really bad for the player 15279 | D:12 | fictitious: Soad, you should probably read Mark rosewater's columns on randomness in games. Basically, a random element makes a game more tactical and skill-intensive. There's a reason computers deomlish you at chess but it takes human wisdom/intellect/skill to win at Civilization. 15297 | D:12 | iggy: computers are only so good at chess 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: by 'so good' you mean 'better than all the best grandmasters', right? 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: i thought we solved chess? 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: No. checkers is solved. Chess computers are unbeatable, but the game is far from solved. 15297 | D:12 | iggy: if a player takes beating a computer very seriously, it's likely a draw. IBM likely cheated in the famous man v machine matches 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: Sure, but that was 20 years ago. Chess machines are legit massively more powerful now. Grandmaster can't beat fritz on a pc anymore. 15297 | D:12 | iggy: not smarter though 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: when a computer can see the next possible 100 moves, a player would need to see the next possible 101 moves to "beat" it 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: That depends on how you define intelligence. Also, AlphaGo is a thing -- computers *also* have beat the top humans at Go, which was supposed to be impossible, for a long time. 15297 | D:12 | iggy: it's the same algorithms with tweaks and really just a lot more power--but the trick is, that's timed chess. Correspondance chess shows a bit different story--unfortunately many grandmasters just cash the check now and lose to teh computers 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: And alphago doesn't look farther ahead than humans do. 15297 | D:12 | iggy: Go has such a vast number of moves that are terrible, i tried getting into it 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: is it worse than crawl? 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: Not really the same kind of thing. It's a board game like chess. 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: i meant the "vast number of moves that are terrible" 15297 | D:12 | iggy: kinda 15297 | D:12 | iggy: it's a game where you try to trap your opponent's pieces by building squares around them 15297 | D:12 | iggy: and it's played on a pretty large grid so it takes a bit to play 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: By which I mean, it's a perfect information, zero sum, turn-based two player game with symmetric positions and no randomness. 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: i like fic's description more 15297 | D:12 | soadsod: sorry lol 15297 | D:12 | fictitious: Well, iggy's actually explains what the game is. 15467 | D:12 | fictitious: Anyway, the main thing about it is, it's a hugely complex game with intricate patterns, even though the rules are very simple. One thing you do on one side of the board can have ripple effects 100 turns later in ways that require 'intuition' to predict. 15485 | D:12 | fictitious: And for a long time, computers were awful at it, because you can't brute force it. 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Which is why I brought it up, because iggy was saying the chess machines weren't clever/intelligent enough. Go algorithms have to be. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i'm not so certain--there really haven't been any big breakthroughts in AI 15516 | D:12 | iggy: lots of tweaks and research--but we're still basing it all off things known from earlier comptuing--just with a lot more power to compute a lot quicker 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Prettysure DeepMind would disagree. Also: watson, autonomous drones, self-driving cars (high profile accidents aside, they do mostly work) 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: That's like saying relativity wasn't a breakthrough because it's based on things newton knew? 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i don't think self-driving cars 'work'--there's numerous incidents. I used to check out the # of times they had to have a human take over the car 15516 | D:12 | iggy: if my laser can make your car turn a 180 :P, it's pretty stupid 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: well.... 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: that doesn't mean the technology isn't closer to "completion now 15516 | D:12 | iggy: there was another accident btw 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: "completion" now that it was 10 years ago 15516 | D:12 | iggy: locally there's no way you could ever run one 15516 | D:12 | iggy: we'd need to redo all infrastructure to support it 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: yea. that's true 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: or at least set a standard for all new roads, bridges, etc 15516 | D:12 | iggy: well here we get a lot of road damage 15516 | D:12 | iggy: so right now lots of lane lines are missing 15516 | D:12 | iggy: on top of huge chuckholes/potholes 15516 | D:12 | iggy: detours setup for construction/no warning of people repairing the road 15516 | D:12 | iggy: one invention i've been told is pretty nice 15516 | D:12 | iggy: the lane assist--say you're on a long trip and are getting tired 15516 | D:12 | iggy: it makes sure you don't drift out of your lane 15516 | D:12 | iggy: my sense is more advanced safety features like that are going to lead the way before autonomous becomes a thing 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: yep 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i sure would love to have a 10 hour drive and sleep on it 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Yeah, I don't disagree. But, still, getting to where we are counts as a breakthrough I'd say. or at least significant progress. 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: I just don't see how you could say that there's no progress in AI. 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Unless your goalpost is 'replicate human thought', aka the strong AI problem. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: oh absolutely, but human drivers are not as dumb. from one of my favourite movies, 'a person is smart, people are stupid' :P 15516 | D:12 | iggy: oh the algorithms that have been around and have been tweaked are very strong 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: i think we're definitely likely to have cars that can stay in a lane while you sleep for an hour or two 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Also, I'm pretty sure if we froze the technology today, and replaced 100% of human drivers with automated ones, we'd have fewer accidents. Not zero. In fact, quite a few. But less than when humans do it. 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: oh damn he's making a reference to men in black! 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i wouldn't be surprised if a lot of money is dumped on highways with lots of courier traffic like crosscountry 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: that came out wrong. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: well done soad 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: :D 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: i remember that line too. anyway... 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: Due to liability / PR reasons you can't do that of course. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: well that's all pretty tricky, the number of incidents AI cars have is greater 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: i dunno... 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: like 15516 | D:12 | iggy: but you have google's PR trying to say the incidents would have been less than a typical driver crash 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: i'd rather have the option there, say, for drunk drivers, or an emergency (dad is injured, kid can't drive) or other cases like that, where the alternative is....nothing. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: it's hard because companies won't share what they aren't compelled to by governments so theer's this grey area. I've seen and heard 5mph accidents where people got very very hurt :S 15516 | D:12 | iggy: absolutely 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i am still amazed how anyone can even drive drunk 15516 | D:12 | iggy: the legal limit here is .08 BAL 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: It's hard to know for sure what would happen if you automated all cars today, and it's an untestable hypothesis ... but all I know is that I'm way less scared of google's algorithm, than I am of a teenager with a cell phone. 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: oh, also, there's YOLO. worth a read, if nothing else 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: https://pjreddie.com/darknet/yolo/ 15516 | D:12 | soadsod: YOLO in this context is "You only look once" 15516 | D:12 | iggy: ugh i mean i sit in a lot of heavy traffic, i have no idea how people can crash a car on a phone 15516 | D:12 | iggy: like are you literally writing a paragraph? 15516 | D:12 | fictitious: texting while driving is as dangerous as drunk driving, in terms of the impairment level. 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i don't exactly agree, there's sitting at a light and doing it. i've watched idiots do this in heavy traffic with people moving lanes and yes that's stupid 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i've seen more adults here than teens do really really stupid things 15516 | D:12 | iggy: like our driving test was 'set the radio to this station, turn volume up/down' i mean these people are like running red lights, doing it in heavy traffic on a freeway... 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i'm not saying text on your phone while driving but uhh...these people pick real bad times to do it 15516 | D:12 | iggy: i have a friend who develops this kind of stuff for a car company here--he got moved up to basically overseeing all the electronics on the car 15516 | D:12 | iggy: when you think about your car having 2-4 computers in it all hooked up to a network you start to realize how complicated they've become :P 15522 | D:12 | iggy: oh right we guessed this was acquirement 15522 | D:12 | soadsod: all i know is, you're driving. not texting. put the damn phone away. honestly, that shit pisses me off so much. it makes my blood simmer. not quite a boil, but close. 15523 | D:12 | iggy: i just think of distracted in general, i've seen peole shave, cut their nails, you name it 15563 | D:12 | fictitious: Yeah, that's the real problem, if you took their phones away they'd just be distracted by something else. 15563 | D:12 | soadsod: the only acceptable things, to me, when someone is driving, is talking to 1 (and only 1) other person who is physically inside the vehicle, and listening to music/radio. that's it. 15564 | D:12 | soadsod: i like to focus on driving when i drive. that's just me though. 15564 | D:12 | fictitious: And turn the radio off in bad weather conditions or when you haven't driven the road before. At least, I do. 15564 | D:12 | fictitious: Well, I used to. Before it stopped working altogether. 15564 | D:12 | soadsod: ah. no radio is a bummer. no car stereo at all? 15564 | D:12 | iggy: hmm i'm an extremely careful driver, helps briefly studying actualarials and doing a lot of race car sims :P 15564 | D:12 | iggy: there's a split second versus getting engrossed in something and that's where everything goes wrong for people 15588 | D:12 | Noticed Snorg 15588 | D:12 | fictitious: Actually, the radio-radio probably does work, I'd never listen to that though. The CD feature died several years ago, so I just leave it off. 15588 | D:12 | iggy: oh man i go to the thrift store and get some awesome CDs :P 15588 | D:12 | iggy: i got half the peter gabriel collection 15611 | D:12 | fictitious: ... this is bad. 15612 | D:12 | soadsod: yea 15612 | D:12 | soadsod: ?tele 15613 | D:12 | fictitious: rage will probably wear off in ... 10 more turns? 15613 | D:12 | iggy: i should have just killed him 15818 | D:12 | soadsod: maybe? he was berserk. wait, do monsters get extra hp when berserk? 15837 | D:12 | iggy: yeah he got a boost 15837 | D:12 | fictitious: Yes, pretty sure. Either that or they take less damage, which amounts to the same thing. 15837 | D:12 | iggy: that's why he didn't die 15837 | D:12 | iggy: he went from 30% or so to 50% 15892 | D:12 | Noticed Nessos 15893 | D:12 | soadsod: oh shit 15895 | D:12 | soadsod: yea. that'll work. paralyse him 15898 | D:12 | soadsod: stab! 15903 | D:12 | Killed Nessos 15906 | D:12 | soadsod: oh. right. long sword. not so good with the stabbing. 16082 | D:12 | iggy: our levels are still pretty low 16110 | D:12 | soadsod: nice 16111 | D:12 | Killed Snorg 16124 | D:12 | Found a portal to a secret trove of treasure. 16127 | D:12 | iggy: oh bow 16127 | D:12 | iggy: what do you think is required? 16127 | D:12 | soadsod: this is good 16127 | D:12 | soadsod: yh 16127 | D:12 | soadsod: ooo 16127 | D:12 | soadsod: i know! 16127 | D:12 | fictitious: piety! piety would be great. 16127 | D:12 | soadsod: 10 rc scrolls 16127 | D:12 | iggy: i bet something in the shop 16128 | D:12 | soadsod: oo 16128 | D:12 | iggy: wow 16128 | D:12 | soadsod: easy ish 16159 | D:12 | fictitious: hell knights will usually drop one. 16159 | D:12 | Found a staircase to the Orcish Mines. 16173 | D:12 | fictitious: Could dive for them if you're insane. :) 16264 | D:12 | Reached *** piety under Ashenzari 16269 | D:12 | soadsod: sometimes i wish you could piss off other gods to cause something like that to happen 16269 | D:12 | Identified a scroll of acquirement 16270 | D:12 | iggy: haha 16270 | D:12 | iggy: knew we had an acquirement 16453 | D:12 | soadsod: er. "something like that" i mean cause enemies to spawn which are out of depth so you can maybe get something good from them or at least a nice injection of exp 16487 | D:12 | soadsod: what do we need from it? money? 16487 | D:12 | soadsod: i recall some ice scales 16487 | D:12 | fictitious: Their value goes down a lot once you read them. Beforehand, so full of potential! After, the +1 dagger of Insufficient Feelings {chop, -2 Int} 16487 | D:12 | iggy: ^ 16487 | D:12 | iggy: i mean what do i even need right now 16487 | D:12 | soadsod: rf+ 16487 | D:12 | iggy: probably jewelry 16487 | D:12 | iggy: already have rF+ 16487 | D:12 | soadsod: more rf+ 16617 | D:11 | soadsod: or food 16619 | D:10 | fictitious: book or evok is guaranteed not to be useless. 16651 | D:10 | soadsod: LRD takes food 16678 | D:8 | fictitious: Unlike equipment, which often is. 16680 | D:8 | fictitious: Like, getting 10 wand of acid charges is better than the majority of acquirements. 16685 | D:9 | soadsod: yea, that would be slightly better than most acquirements i've gotten 16685 | D:9 | fictitious: Unless you've got a gadget shop, then gold to buy them is better. 16693 | D:9 | Killed a death yak 16754 | D:8 | Killed xzight's ghost 16759 | D:8 | fictitious: I think book is the best for gnoll, though. You have all spell skills. 16759 | D:8 | iggy: i thought about book 16759 | D:8 | iggy: demon BLADE aww 16834 | D:8 | Found a staircase to the Lair. 16907 | D:8 | fictitious: I think it's guaranteed to have at least one spell you don't know. If you use all your acquirement scrolls on books you'll eventually get something you will use. 16907 | D:8 | iggy: last time i literally got garbage 16907 | D:8 | soadsod: hmm 16907 | D:8 | soadsod: armor? 16907 | D:8 | soadsod: get level 13 gbefore you use it? 16907 | D:8 | soadsod: only 2% 16916 | D:8 | fictitious: does that matter? I thought only your id'd objects influenced acquirement. 16917 | Lair:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Lair of Beasts 16933 | Lair:1 | soadsod: i think you're right, but it makes me feel better 16966 | Lair:1 | Reached XP level 13. HP: 81/98 MP: 19/26 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: more an xp pot thing? 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: i'm just gonna hold it 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: if i had less wands i'd go evoke 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: but jewelry will be a ring of fire or something 17004 | Lair:1 | soadsod: yep 17004 | Lair:1 | fictitious: Ah, the "take this scroll to the grave with me" strategy. time-honored, that one. 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: i don't have a dying need for anything besides gold 17004 | Lair:1 | iggy: TIME HONOURED! 17004 | Lair:1 | soadsod: i lost so many characters to that one 17025 | Lair:1 | fictitious: I died with a stack of 3 once. Nevermind why I found 3 of them on d:7. 17064 | Lair:1 | Noticed atlas1's ghost (novice DEEE) 17080 | Lair:1 | soadsod: definitely not less 100 characters died while holding a scroll of enchant weapon/armor 17227 | Lair:1 | soadsod: not many of them had acquirements laying around. i usually use those right away unless im close to a level or satisfied with my gear 17320 | Lair:1 | soadsod: oh look 17328 | Lair:1 | soadsod: he's just like you. run away. 17329 | Lair:1 | Killed atlas1's ghost 17344 | Lair:1 | soadsod: now go kill those ghosts from before 17992 | Lair:1 | fictitious: *yawwwwwwwwn* Well, that's all from me for tonight. g'night all. 17992 | Lair:1 | iggy: \o 17992 | Lair:1 | soadsod: good night 17992 | Lair:1 | iggy: i gotta make some tea and go to bed soon too 18062 | Lair:2 | soadsod: i also want to go to bed soon. will you clear 1 or 2 more floors? 18071 | Lair:2 | iggy: last floor right now or i can just stop 18071 | Lair:2 | iggy: i'll be back tomorrow :P 18159 | Lair:2 | soadsod: i won't. school/homework 18170 | Lair:2 | iggy: aww 18170 | Lair:2 | iggy: weekend looks better for me too 18171 | Lair:2 | soadsod: well, maybe a little :P 18192 | Lair:2 | Reached **** piety under Ashenzari 18398 | Lair:2 | iggy: lig seems fine here 18412 | Lair:2 | soadsod: yea. it should be ok 18575 | Lair:2 | iggy: well we know what that is 18575 | Lair:2 | iggy: queen bee 18646 | Lair:2 | iggy: so if you ever end up in this build, if i had a small boost to stealth 18646 | Lair:2 | iggy: it'd basically make this lair free 18773 | Lair:2 | soadsod: stealth ring. also don't forget about your passwall. also if you had a +5 dagger/short blade your stabs would hurt noticeably more 18782 | Lair:2 | iggy: yup and yup i don't like to burn the ring slot for a stealth boose tho 19267 | Lair:2 | Lost mutation: You have large cloven feet. [evolution] 19304 | Lair:2 | iggy: good night 20012 | Lair:3 | Noticed Prince Ribbit 20016 | Lair:2 | Killed Prince Ribbit 20762 | Lair:3 | soadsod: i discovered beem tells jokes 20764 | Lair:3 | soadsod: ??joke[2 20764 | Lair:3 | beem: joke[2/26]: How many Ogre-Mages does it take to change a light bulb? 20764 | Lair:3 | iggy: yup 20764 | Lair:3 | soadsod: ??joke[3 20764 | Lair:3 | beem: joke[3/26]: None, there are no more ogre mages as of 0.5. 20764 | Lair:3 | iggy: i discovered my isp is having issues yet again 20764 | Lair:3 | soadsod: lol 20847 | Lair:3 | soadsod: oh. the power situation still sucks? 20852 | Lair:3 | iggy: no 20852 | Lair:3 | soadsod: sorry typing one handed. eating. 20852 | Lair:3 | iggy: just the cable tv and the internet is cutting out intermittantly 20852 | Lair:3 | iggy: it's nearish bed time for me 20907 | Lair:3 | Found a staircase to the Swamp. 20922 | Lair:3 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 20923 | Lair:3 | soadsod: i was referring to their situation as much as yours 21055 | Lair:3 | soadsod: yea your internet is trash! 21055 | Lair:3 | soadsod: you had two listings in the lobby lol 21055 | Lair:3 | soadsod: did you get my messages? 21502 | Lair:4 | soadsod: yea it's pretty bad. 21502 | Lair:4 | iggy: yeah....3-4 nights out of the last 7 21502 | Lair:4 | soadsod: ouch 21503 | Lair:4 | soadsod: you had two listings in the lobby 21510 | Lair:4 | iggy: yeah one keeps going linkdead 22004 | Lair:4 | iggy: think there's a spider lair? 22190 | Lair:4 | Reached skill level 10 in Spellcasting 22373 | Lair:4 | Reached XP level 14. HP: 106/106 MP: 21/28 22637 | Lair:4 | soadsod: lol. just saw your question. 22652 | Lair:4 | Found a hole to the Spider Nest. 23311 | Lair:4 | Reached ***** piety under Ashenzari 23323 | Lair:4 | Identified the ring "Seclumpi" {rElec Slay+1} 23692 | Lair:5 | iggy: weird 23746 | Lair:5 | soadsod: yea. rare vault for sure 23756 | Lair:5 | Found a viscous altar of Jiyva. 23756 | Lair:5 | Found a staircase to the Slime Pits. 24143 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Dodging 24349 | Lair:5 | Got the cursed scale mail "Giebbydd" {*Slow rCorr Int+5 Slay+3} 24696 | Lair:5 | Lost mutation: You evolve. [evolution] 24936 | Lair:6 | Entered Level 6 of the Lair of Beasts 24999 | Lair:5 | Reached skill level 10 in Stealth 25338 | Lair:6 | Reached skill level 10 in Invocations 26242 | Lair:6 | Noticed fitz's ghost (journeyman HOFi) 26266 | Lair:6 | Noticed MayorMcCheese's ghost (journeyman GrBe) 26517 | Lair:6 | Found a snail-covered altar of Cheibriados. 26779 | D:9 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 26834 | D:8 | iggy: note lair 6 has numerous bad enemies on it--ghosts 27018 | Orc:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Orcish Mines 28330 | Orc:1 | Reached XP level 15. HP: 114/114 MP: 24/29 28444 | Orc:2 | Entered Level 2 of the Orcish Mines 28628 | Orc:2 | Found a gateway to a bazaar. 28645 | Bazaar | Entered a bazaar 28793 | Bazaar | Found Gaxkamy's Distillery. 28793 | Bazaar | Found Iniwi's Armour Shoppe. 28814 | Bazaar | Found Nub Udyl's Jewellery Shoppe. 28830 | Bazaar | Found Cown's Food Emporium. 28830 | Bazaar | Found Noilua's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28878 | Bazaar | Bought a ration for 45 gold pieces 28904 | Bazaar | Bought a +4 ring of evasion for 396 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 45 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 45 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought 2 potions of mutation for 240 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 45 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of curing for 45 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought 3 potions of lignification for 135 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought 2 potions of flight for 90 gold pieces 28924 | Bazaar | Bought a potion of lignification for 45 gold pieces 29220 | Orc:2 | Found a staircase to the Elven Halls. 29478 | Orc:2 | Noticed an orc warlord 29515 | Orc:2 | Killed an orc warlord 29739 | Orc:2 | Noticed Nergalle 29873 | Orc:2 | Found a roughly hewn altar of Beogh. 29936 | Orc:2 | Killed Nergalle 30044 | Orc:2 | Found Vydun's General Store. 30081 | Orc:2 | Bought a scroll of identify for 26 gold pieces 30090 | Orc:2 | Found Zaocil's Antique Armour Boutique. 30105 | Orc:2 | Found Honibat's Antique Weapon Boutique. 30126 | Orc:2 | Found Ecri Weg's Book Boutique. 31237 | D:13 | Found a gate to the Vaults. 31376 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Earth Magic 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Fighting 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Short Blades 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Long Blades 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Axes 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Maces & Flails 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Polearms 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Staves 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Slings 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Bows 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Crossbows 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Throwing 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Armour 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Shields 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Unarmed Combat 31812 | D:13 | Reached skill level 10 in Evocations 33624 | D:15 | Entered Level 15 of the Dungeon 33826 | D:15 | Reached XP level 16. HP: 117/122 MP: 3/31 33972 | D:15 | Got the uncursed leather armour of the Furies {Int+4} 34259 | D:15 | Found a sacrificial altar of Ru. 34642 | D:15 | Found a staircase to the Depths. 35064 | D:8 | iggy: \i 35150 | Swamp:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Swamp 36357 | Swamp:2 | Noticed a thorn hunter 36861 | Swamp:2 | Killed a thorn hunter 39259 | Orc:2 | Bought a pair of embroidered boots for 202 gold pieces 39289 | Orc:2 | Bought a book of Fire for 975 gold pieces 39295 | Orc:2 | Learned a level 5 spell: Fireball 39615 | Spider:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Spider Nest 39796 | Spider:1 | iggy: ??held 39796 | Spider:1 | beem: held[1/2]: Common sources are nets/webs and certain monsters (e.g. mimics). On monsters, like {constriction} but without the damage. In both cases, move to trigger an escape attempt. 40306 | Spider:1 | Reached XP level 17. HP: 125/131 MP: 5/33 41050 | Spider:1 | Identified the +9 whip of Guilt {flame, *Rage rF+ rC+ rN++} (You took it off an entropy weaver on level 1 of the Spider Nest) 41962 | Spider:2 | Found a frozen archway. 41966 | IceCv | Entered an ice cave 42620 | IceCv | Reached ****** piety under Ashenzari 44026 | IceCv | Noticed an Ice Fiend 44031 | IceCv | HP: 60/131 [??? (47)] 44036 | IceCv | Killed an Ice Fiend 44308 | Spider:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Transmutations 45304 | Elf:1 | Entered Level 1 of the Elven Halls 45310 | Elf:1 | Found a magical portal. 45342 | WizLab | Entered The Chambers of the Cloud Mage 46008 | WizLab | Identified the +4 hand crossbow of Defiance {penet, rN+ Str+3} 46117 | WizLab | Identified the ring of Badghog {-Tele +Fly Slay+6} (You took it off a spriggan air mage in a wizard's laboratory) 46273 | WizLab | Identified the +4 great sword of Lupp {antimagic, rN+} 46316 | WizLab | Identified Pyesuorch's Tome of Flight 46319 | WizLab | Noticed Axtowas 46516 | Elf:1 | Found Wiraacif's Distillery. 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Conjurations 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Hexes 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Charms 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Summonings 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Necromancy 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Translocations 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Fire Magic 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Ice Magic 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Air Magic 46944 | Orc:2 | Reached skill level 10 in Poison Magic 47331 | Elf:1 | Reached XP level 18. HP: 139/139 MP: 23/34 47807 | Elf:1 | Identified the Papyrus of Summoning 47812 | Elf:1 | Learned a level 3 spell: Mephitic Cloud 47818 | Elf:1 | Learned a level 5 spell: Summon Mana Viper 47820 | Elf:1 | Learned a level 1 spell: Summon Butterflies 48738 | Elf:2 | HP: 64/139 [halberd of venom (22)] 48744 | Elf:1 | HP: 66/139 [poisoned by a halberd of venom] 48993 | Elf:2 | Found Torphegh's Antique Weapon Shoppe. 49373 | Elf:2 | iggy: ??damnation 49373 | Elf:2 | beem: damnation[1/5]: 3x3 explosion used by certain high level demons and priests. 3d20 damage, requires line of fire, not affected by rF or AC. Some monsters (notably hellions) get damnation burst which is smite targetted and 3d15. For the card, see {exile_card}. 49373 | Elf:2 | iggy: ??exile_card 49373 | Elf:2 | beem: exile card[1/3]: The Exile card throws multiple creatures into the Abyss, the number of creatures increasing with power. You are a creature. However, that's not to say you will be thrown into the abyss, just that you might be (and your chance doesn't increase with power). Unless you're the only visible creature, in which case you will be. 49373 | Elf:2 | Bought an iridescent trident for 272 gold pieces 49373 | Elf:2 | Identified the +6 trident "Eriti" {venom, Int+4} (You bought it in a shop on level 2 of the Elven Halls) 50319 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 50320 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 50435 | Elf:2 | Found a runed gate. 51635 | Elf:2 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 51643 | Elf:2 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 52322 | Elf:3 | Entered Level 3 of the Elven Halls 52641 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 52642 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 52660 | Elf:2 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 52856 | Elf:2 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 52971 | Elf:3 | Noticed a deep elf blademaster 52992 | Elf:2 | Killed a deep elf blademaster 53277 | Elf:3 | Reached XP level 19. HP: 111/147 MP: 32/36 53344 | Elf:3 | HP: 68/147 [deep elf master archer/arrow (28)] 53345 | Elf:3 | HP: 23/147 [deep elf master archer/arrow (45)] 53346 | Elf:3 | Killed from afar by a deep elf sorcerer Skill XL: | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 | ---------------+-------------------------------------------------------+----- Transmutations | 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.8 Spellcasting | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | 13.1 Invocations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | 13.3 Fighting | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Short Blades | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Long Blades | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Axes | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Maces & Flails | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Polearms | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Staves | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Slings | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Bows | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Crossbows | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Throwing | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Armour | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Shields | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Unarmed Combat | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Evocations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.3 Conjurations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Hexes | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Charms | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Summonings | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Necromancy | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Translocations | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Fire Magic | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Ice Magic | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Air Magic | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Poison Magic | 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 | 10.6 Dodging | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 | 13.0 Stealth | 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 | 12.9 Earth Magic | 6 7 8 9 10 11 | 11.7 Action | 1- 3 | 4- 6 | 7- 9 | 10-12 | 13-15 | 16-18 | 19-21 || total -------------------------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------+-------++------- Melee: Unarmed | 27 | | | | | | || 27 Bite | 3 | 16 | 21 | 46 | 131 | 119 | 1 || 337 Short sword | 11 | 74 | 165 | | | | || 250 Dagger | 10 | 39 | | | | | || 49 Kick | | | 44 | 3 | | | || 47 Punch | | | 5 | 1 | | | || 6 Long sword | | | 36 | 350 | 933 | 839 | 1 || 2159 Throw: Stone | | | | 13 | | | || 13 Cast: Sandblast | 23 | | | | | | || 23 Stone Arrow | 2 | 26 | 74 | 27 | 286 | 259 | || 674 Passwall | | 1 | | | | | || 1 Lee's Rapid Decon | | | 5 | 102 | 163 | 212 | || 482 Petrify | | | | 32 | 20 | 4 | || 56 Fireball | | | | | | 87 | 3 || 90 Summon Mana Viper | | | | | | 11 | 1 || 12 Mephitic Cloud | | | | | | 7 | || 7 Invok: Curse Item | | | 2 | 2 | | | || 4 Abil: Evoke Blink | | | | 22 | 7 | 26 | || 55 Stop Flying | | | | | | 2 | || 2 Evoke Flight | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Evoke: Wand | | | | 21 | 16 | 54 | || 91 Lightning rod | | | | 3 | 6 | 2 | || 11 Sack of spiders | | | | | 3 | | || 3 Phial of floods | | | | | | 6 | || 6 Fan of gales | | | | | | 2 | || 2 Use: Scroll | 2 | 8 | 5 | 12 | 4 | 11 | 1 || 43 Potion | 2 | | 3 | 7 | 1 | 6 | 1 || 20 Stab: Sleeping | 9 | 6 | 6 | 7 | 14 | 10 | || 52 Distracted | | 2 | | 1 | 3 | 5 | || 11 Paralysed | | | | 37 | 10 | 14 | || 61 Invisible | | | | 2 | | | || 2 Petrified | | | | 2 | 54 | 16 | || 72 Petrifying | | | | | 7 | | || 7 Betrayed ally | | | | | | 1 | || 1 Confused | | | | | | 4 | || 4 Eat: Chunk | 1 | 10 | 15 | 35 | 54 | 43 | || 158 Ration | | | 1 | 6 | 8 | 17 | || 32 Armor: Robe | 11 | 18 | 34 | 57 | 170 | 273 | || 563 Skin | | | 32 | 15 | 14 | | || 61 Dodge: Dodged | 36 | 58 | 126 | 194 | 484 | 689 | 1 || 1588 Block: Other | | | 14 | | | | || 14 Buckler | | | | 44 | 243 | 319 | 3 || 609 Rpst.: Long sword | | | 4 | 52 | 121 | 132 | || 309